I agree with all of you.
They wanted to make this a social game that would draw in the "casual" player. I was a casual player in D1, until I started to find out that there was so much more to the game. I found this forum and listened to what others were doing and it got me excited. There was the Grimoire that I found out that I needed to strive to do stuff to get the cards.
It's hard to play D2 with your friends when your friends don't want to play anymore.
The forums are either quiet or their full of salt.
There is nothing to strive for in D2 to show that I am playing. The hardcore player wants to show that they are hardcore. They don't want to be classified on the same level as the casual player.
I don't like to harp on Bungie, but I feel they missed the mark in many ways.
Take the Faction Rally. We didn't know who was leading. All they had to do was put a counter in game as to how many tokens each faction has been turned in and that would have driven people to strive to get their faction higher.
I am not a fan of a "participation award" never have been, never will. That's what I feel D2 has done. Oh, you didn't complete the public event because you were soloing it. You get NOTHING...
I don't like that I don't know what rank my factions are, what level am I in gunsmith? Am I close to another rank, do I need to go find another blue to dismantle. I don't know, let me fly back to the tower and go to the gunsmith to find out.
I played the Crucible the other night. I got tokens, I went to Shaxx and turned them in, I was one short of getting my next rank. I logged off.
I am okay with the challenges. But show me ahead of time what they are so I know how to load out before I start? I'm running an arc energy weapon, and when I start a Crucible match, it's void weapon kills. Now I have to take time switch weapons out and I lose and ground I need at the beginning of the game.
As sgtcoy said, I get my daily stuff done and then I'm watching TV. Many of you probably remember me in D1 saying, I don't watch TV anymore because I'm playing Destiny all the time.
GIVE US SOMETHING TO CHASE FOR!!!!
Another thing. Make Strikes relevant!!!
I believe that the PS4 has an exclusive strike. But I don't know, because I don't play them. Because the loot sucks...